An MBA from the Jamnalal Bajaj Institute, Siddharth Roy Kapur has been involved with all aspects of film making: Creative, development, production, marketing, distribution and syndication. He will soon become MD of The Walt Disney Company, India, from January 1, 2014. During his stint at the Studio business, he has produced many hit films such as Rang De Basanti, Parineeta, A Wednesday!, Paan Singh Tomar, Barfi!, Heroine and the recent superhit Chennai Express. He talks to Forbes India about the changing co-production model in the film business, the latest trends in film marketing and reflects on the genre of films that pull in the crowds today.
Q. How do you select movies to produce? Is it a scientific or business plan approach?
It’s ultimately based on the script. Do you like it? Is it commercially viable? Is it exciting? Will you be able to cast it in the way you think the film should be cast? All these factors you would consider even in Hollywood before you green-light a film.
Q. Do you decide projects based on the stars you have cast, or is it the other way around, where you first hear about a project and then decide which star to cast?
Every year we have a sense that we’re going to make around 18 movies [12 Hindi movies and 6 movies for the Southern region]. The 12 Hindi movies are generally divided into four tent-poles [big-budget films], four medium-size films and four smaller budget films. We start looking at two years ahead; planning happens much earlier. When you’re evaluating scripts, it’s all in the parameter of: This is a film that needs a certain budget so I can go one route and cast it or do what is best for the film [does it need a star?]. Some films need to be mounted with a star because that’s the type of films they are. If we’re making a Kai Po Che, it’s the story of three young men, we don’t want one to overwhelm the other two, so we can’t cast one star and two who are not. In Chennai Express, you need the flamboyance and the draw of a star to carry off that sort of role. You ensure that with Rohit Shetty, Shah Rukh Khan and Deepika Padukone in the film. So its horses for courses—your content dictates it rather than the other way around.
Q. Is co-production now the norm when working with big stars?
Today with any big star, his production company is always involved in the making of the film. That’s just the way the movie business has grown. In Hollywood, stars used to enjoy gross points from the first dollar earned on a film [Hollywood stars get a certain percentage of the profit a movie makes]. Similarly, India has evolved into a co-production structure that you enter into with your top star. The star could choose to co-produce the film with you or he could choose to just be paid a back-end [post release amount], in which case there’s no branding but there is a back end [benefit] that the star would enjoy in the film.
Big stars are no longer just working on a performance fee basis. And we are happy for that. Stars are happy because we’re sharing the risk.
Q. So there is a small sign-up amount and the balance to be made only when the movie is a hit?
I wouldn’t say it’s a small amount. There’s an artiste fee that’s built into the cost of production anyway when it’s a co-production deal.
Q. Then what’s the benefit for a star to enter into a co-production deal? They, in any case, budget the fee in the deal.
Because they all have experience in the industry and feel they can bring a certain production know-how and value to the process. And frankly they have. They [also] like their films to be produced in a certain manner.
Q. Now with all big stars doing only one movie a year, does marketing play a dominant role in a film’s success?
I wouldn’t say it plays a dominant role. It certainly has a big impact on the way a film opens, but after that the film takes over. The post-release promotions we had for Chennai Express helped keep the film in the public eye. But I daresay had the film not been appreciated and liked, it wouldn’t have gone this far. It’s a combination of the two: If you don’t promote a film, you’re not giving anyone a chance to get excited about it. On the other hand, if you’re promoting a film that’s not a very good one, you’re going to open big and crash on Monday.
Q. But if you do promote well, does it at least help you recover the money in the first weekend?
The scale at which these films [big budget movies] are at, not really. It’s not a first-weekend game for big budget movies. That’s possibly only for small and medium budget movies. But if it does great the first weekend and then it drops precipitously on Monday, I don’t think any film can be considered successful. A large chunk of your revenue does come from the first weekend but then the sustenance dictates the way the film is perceived by the public as well as by the trade [as a hit or a flop or a weekend wonder]. So, all of us are gearing up for the lifetime business of a film rather than its first weekend.
Q. Revenue-wise, other kickers like satellite rights have come in. Is it still safe harbour if you’ve done OK in the first weekend and made decent satellite revenues?
If you’re talking about being safe, absolutely. If you’ve pre-sold your satellite, if you’ve pre-sold your other rights, you’ve got a great weekend, etc… you will be in a good place. Having said that, we’re in the business of generating IP [intellectual property] which needs to last a lifetime. The success of a film dictates its longevity as a revenue stream. If you have a film that at the end of 10 days is going to be a flop, despite being in a ‘safe harbour’ position, that doesn’t bode very well for the lifetime revenues of the film. Because the badge is that of a film that hasn’t worked and your subsequent satellite sales and sales on other platforms will be definitely lower due to it. So, you have to gear up to create IP value that lasts and pays off over at least 10-15 years. That’s what studios are built on today.
Q. How does Disney’s acquisition of UTV help you?
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(This story appears in the 15 November, 2013 issue of Forbes India. To visit our Archives, click here.)
Amazing interview by a producer who understands the game way better than a lot of the older players. This man is inspirational.on Jul 21, 2014